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on 30.07.2011, 20:27

Isolating a Wiper Motor Ground

Postby Ursine on 30.07.2011, 20:27

Some wiper motors will have the case grounded, which will be a problem when attaching to a metal frame. If the motors are run in opposite directions it will short out your power supply.
I spent the morning trying to see how difficult it would to isolate the ground. Fortunately it's not too hard. There are lots of different wiper motors out there but this is how my particular model looks. First chect to see if you're lucky enough to have a motor that's not grounded in the first place.

1. Remove the motor case.


2. Remove the gear cover. Mine simply snapped on and off.


3. Before I could remove the rotor, I had to remove the C clip on the worm shaft.


4. The metal screw eyelets are where the motor is grounded to the case. There is one spot on top (indicated by the circle) and one underneath.


5. On the back of the board I used a Dremel with an abrasive wheel to cut the traces to the grounded eyelet.


6. On the top I had an over temp/current device that I also cut the trace to.


7. I've replaced the ground with bits of insulated wire.


8. Replace the circuit board. I've removed the over current device on mine. I decided I didn't need it.


9. I had to tie back the brushes with thin bits of wire before I could replace the rotor.


10. Replace the housing and gear cover. A few drops of light machine oil on the bearings or bushings would be a good idea. Also check for damage to the geartrain. Mind had nylon gears. Be sure there's ample grease in the gearbox.

Finally make sure you don't have continuity between the motor leads and the case. On my gear cover, there was a tab to ground the common motor lead to the case. I removed it.

Enjoy,

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on 31.07.2011, 00:44
Re: Isolating a Wiper Motor Ground

Postby bsft on 31.07.2011, 00:44

That looks like a BIG job to isolate the ground.
I just cut the wires on the outside of the motor first and then applied power to find what was what
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Perhaps try this first before removing the motor housing, you may find you can isolate with less hassle. If that does not work, then go to plan b.
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on 31.07.2011, 01:16
Re: Isolating a Wiper Motor Ground

Postby Ursine on 31.07.2011, 01:16

I tried that first with mine. I always had some continuity to the case no matter what wiring combo I used. I agree, try to snip the wires and power it first... stripping down the motor is a last resort.

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on 31.07.2011, 01:34
Re: Isolating a Wiper Motor Ground

Postby EL-CORAZON on 31.07.2011, 01:34

Hi .just done this my self :D and as I was in the mud. 8) I modified just A little bit more
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on 31.07.2011, 01:37
Re: Isolating a Wiper Motor Ground

Postby EL-CORAZON on 31.07.2011, 01:37

If u want to do this isolation mod... the first post is the way.. you have to isolate the current inside the motor
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on 31.07.2011, 02:25
Re: Isolating a Wiper Motor Ground

Postby bsft on 31.07.2011, 02:25

Failing that, mount the motor on a piece of board, paint it then screw it down, and mount the rod end to a block of timber on the top part of the frame. Paint it and no one will notice, and you solve any further issues with voltage - current change. Wood does not conduct any power.
Besides, since when does an unisolated motor feed current back to the controller to damage it. The controller is telling the motor what to do. As far as I know anyway. :uups:
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on 31.07.2011, 10:19
Re: Isolating a Wiper Motor Ground

Postby kubing on 31.07.2011, 10:19

daihatsu Mira wiper has an external ground wire attach to their case..just cut the ground wire to the body..done. no need to open the whole case to do that. :D
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