newby looks for plc and motioncontrollers

by **kermit** on 17.02.2010, 18:48

Omron J1000 3 pcs incl netfilter it will set me about 1400 euro,not included
a controllbox, 3 motors/gearbox and PLC
will look for cheaper options
greetz

by **Frakk** on 18.02.2010, 00:15

Yeah, you are looking into some serious money to move that cockpit.

You said you have access to hydraulics? Maybe you should take that approach. I don't know how much would that cost, but hydraulics will be a more reliable and simpler mechanical solution. With motors, you will need gearing, mechanical pulleys or arms, plus the frame for pivot points. That is a lot of mechanical parts and moving around 300kg won't be easy on them. With a hydraulic setup you can eliminate a lot of this. You will basically need a platform, cylinders with control, and pivots to attach all this to your cockpit.

by **kermit** on 18.02.2010, 08:26

As for the platform today ,
I`m completing the last task drilling some holes in the pivotsupportplate .
This weekend I will mount all the small bits and secure the Cessna to the platform.
Hydraulics isn`t that easy,
You have to consider High pressures and flows, also dedicated electric valves and powerpacks are not cheap .
And because my setup is on the first floor ,I need a dampproof floor ,concrete sucks up oil if spilled and gives a nice stain on the ceilling in my livingroom.
Resulting in a sleeping place under a bridge as my wife will throw me out

But it is an option
I will take some measurements with a loadcell when the platform is finished,
so I know excactly wich forces there are on the platform and take it from there.
Mounting electric or hydraulic powerplant and lines is easy for me . as I have more then 20 years of experience as a mechanical engineer.
Regards henk

by **kermit** on 15.03.2010, 23:05

Hi, herewith my little plane, also I am in contact with Indumex for frequentie inverters
really nice people.
greetz Henk

by **kermit** on 15.03.2010, 23:06

Another pic

by **egoexpress** on 16.03.2010, 00:18

Nice!

Did you decide about 2 or 3 DOF yet? For 3 DOF you should use a spring to absorb the platform weight Imo.

Looking forward to see some pics of your motion platform under the fuselage.

Btw, the cockpit pic is quite small.

regards

by **kermit** on 16.03.2010, 08:42

Yes for now , it will be 2 dof maybe in the future I will go for 3 dof.
But first I`d like to fly.
changing things will be easy if I know the basics
greetz

by **kermit** on 22.03.2010, 20:43

It`s getting even better,
I just found out that the frequentie inverters Teco E2 serie is exactly the same ,as we have in the company I work for .
They are only under a different name ,our brand name is called Bonfiglioli Synthesis serie.
I will be able to buy 3 inverters as the cost will be much lower ,
But for now I have to do all the calculations all over again ,
as I`ll go for 3 dof if I could find the right PLC .
greetz

by **egoexpress** on 22.03.2010, 21:54

if I could find the rigtht PLC

You dont need a PLC at all. The AMC motion controller will do the job.

by **kermit** on 23.03.2010, 08:27

Hi Christian,
Please can you explain how to get 3 dof(heave) of this card,
also If I`m looking at You Tube it looks like the motion is out of sync with fs2004/FSX.
Does this card can excellerate/decellerate the motor rpm for g force feeling?
Can I set up a triangle motor X Y Z axis setup instead of 1 motor for x and one motor for y axis
so the total weight of the platform is diveded between the 3 motor/gearbox and give 3 axis movement?
Also how does the amc the position of the axis