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on 19.02.2012, 13:42

Re: museumsteve's project

Postby museumsteve on 19.02.2012, 13:42

I am currently a bit stuck as I head towards motion :(
I have a GT Omega rig which is great but I'm not sure how it will cope with motion. I can obviously take the seat off and make mountings etc but I'll also have to put the whole frame on a new platform to allow mounting the motors because the frame work currently stops at the back of the seat.
The frame on the GT Omega is tubular, which isn't the easiest to work with. When I first got this (just 2 months agao lol) I had considered motion, I just wanted to race.
I'm seriously wondering if I should be looking to start again with a frame ...
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on 19.02.2012, 22:12
Re: museumsteve's project

Postby bsft on 19.02.2012, 22:12

It should be ok, just a matter of finding the balance point.
You will probably need something bigger than wiper motors though to move it.
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on 20.02.2012, 09:53
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Postby yobuddy on 20.02.2012, 09:53

You could always use 4 wiper motors, design it for 4 motors and build it now with 2 and see how it works. Leaving the “upgrade” too 2 more motors for later if it’s not needed.

If you need too, add 2 more motors to the front, centered in the 4 corners around the balance point as bsft suggested.

Wire them in parallel, so you pull more Amps and I would start with a 30a inline fuse.
If it blows - move up 5 amp's...

Although technically speaking, the Mosfet’s on the H-Bridge handle 55v at 47a. :cheers:

That’s allot – lol

I'm guessing the stated 50v input max on the H-Bridge is because of another part on the PCB (I'd have to look at the part list again), so don't go above 50v and you should be fine.

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on 20.02.2012, 09:59
Re: museumsteve's project

Postby yobuddy on 20.02.2012, 09:59

You could always wire them in series, and use a 24v power source. (2 batteries)
Then you would pull about the same amps as a 12v system, with double the power!

I would try the above first thou.
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on 20.02.2012, 12:11
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Postby museumsteve on 20.02.2012, 12:11

There's a pair of 100mm SCN5's for sale on marketplace forums but I dont know if I made an offer for those if I'd regret not getting 150mm ones..so many options and so little experience :(
Why do you guys not live in the UK ;)
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on 20.02.2012, 14:42
Re: museumsteve's project

Postby bsft on 20.02.2012, 14:42

2dof-motion-simulator-with-a-rotation-axis-t1531.html?hilit=drift
this guy uses actuators on a full frame...have a read and you may find your answer.
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on 20.02.2012, 17:27
Re: museumsteve's project

Postby museumsteve on 20.02.2012, 17:27

lol..I'm sure I replied to this :D
Anyway, I'm not planning on moving the whole frame/rig, just the seat (certainly at my first attempt). However, the more I think about it the more I think I wont be happy until I get a more permanent and plug n play and less DIY solution and grab a simxperience kit or something :s
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on 22.02.2012, 23:25
Re: museumsteve's project

Postby museumsteve on 22.02.2012, 23:25

Just paid for a 100mm SCN5 kit from the marketplace forums ;) so hopefully next week I'll get 'moving'.
I look forward to updating here as I progress :)
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on 26.02.2012, 16:40
Re: museumsteve's project

Postby museumsteve on 26.02.2012, 16:40

While I am still deciding whether to build a new frame or use my existing GT Omega..can someone give advice on positioning of the actuators.
I see most actuator rigs are using 150mm units and the ones I have coming are 100mm. Can they still be used in the same manner, as in up to around shoulder height on seat. I appreciate they dont have the travel of 150mm but I'm keen to start planning :)
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on 03.03.2012, 13:37
Re: museumsteve's project

Postby museumsteve on 03.03.2012, 13:37

Where to start..

I picked up some Frex profile from the marketplace to go with the SCN5's and last night got round to putting it together.
I also bought a new bucket seat to complete things as I planned to sell my GT Omega Pro once the motion rig is finished.

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Anyway, I'm pretty disappointed how this is turning out. I cannot see that there is enough framework to complete things as I cannot get the actuator angle further back, which I'm sure I do need to do. Also, there's nothing left over for anything else like wheel etc.

When testing the actuators they are really aggressive but I assume that's down to the lack of damping and/or the narrow angle they're set at.

Also, when trying to use the test profile it tells me to make changes to the settings as it's for an old version, I dont want to start messing with numbers just yet.

So, I am torn between:-

1 - perservering and buying more aluminium

2 -buying a simexperience seat base kit

3 - Using my GT Omega which is a steel frame. Fixing that to a wood/MDF base so I can fix universal joint and actuator points where I like (as well as hiding cables etc).

Someone please give me some words of encouragement :(
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