Step by Step... approaching to Thanos work.

[Raceray]

Wow, you make a lot of progresses, looks great! Curious to see it in motion.

Btw. The last picture is one of the best funny Sim pictures i´ve ever seen.
I also like the blue mascot beside the G25

Hope that beta testing guy does his job well - keep watching the street

[Thend]

Hi every body!

I just noticed, When your sim is going to turn or tilt to the side.. your pitch motor and its construction will not turn with the sim. whouldent this be a problem when the sim going to pitch and tilt at the same time?

I dident think of it befor I looked closer on Thanos joyrider and noticed that his complete pitch structure whas moving..

I dont know if anybody understands what im trying to tell.. because my english is really bad this late.. And I can always blame on the fact that I live in Sweden


And OT: I'm graduating in 3 weeks and then I going to be unemployed for some time.. and i think i'm going to try building my own motion sim, based on the joyrider.

[tronicgr]

I just noticed, When your sim is going to turn or tilt to the side.. your pitch motor and its construction will not turn with the sim. whouldent this be a problem when the sim going to pitch and tilt at the same time?

I dident think of it befor I looked closer on Thanos joyrider and noticed that his complete pitch structure whas moving..

I dont know if anybody understands what im trying to tell.. because my english is really bad this late.. And I can always blame on the fact that I live in Sweden

Hi Thend,

He IS moving the whole pitch structure as well!! Its just mounted on the outside of the thick bank frame structure cause some miscalculations made his cockpit a little short, with little space in the the inside.


Thanos

[knob2001]

Hi!...

Thend, as TronicGr said, my pitch motor follows the movement of the structure... my design is quite different from TronicGr original one as i left not as much space as i thought. Anyway, the way it works is the same as doing inside the frame. How you attach the pitch motor to the structure is another history, a big WTF! will escape from your lips two or three times, and is something i recommend you to do with someone else helping you.

I have change the Hall sensor frame becouse TronicGr told me that to get the best results from the sensor is rotating it at the same axis as the magnet. I'm on the beach right now (holy holydays ), so when i return to my place i will show you all the upgrades i've made to the simulator in real pictures.

See you soon.
Regards
Knob2001

[madpcsupreme]

Hi!...


On the electronic side:
I've spend some hours drilling and soldering my fingers This is the result after a hard work on a sunday:

pbc_end.jpg

You will see some different things about the Tronic's pictures as i didn't find the exactly componets. The ATMEGA-8535PI is out of catalog in Spain... and the 644 is nearly the same, at least in the mayor shops i now.
I found it on a German store called DARISUS, and a i've ordered a couple of them for 20€ shipping and VAT included. It's not cheap, but who said it will be easy? They told me tomorrow or in a couple of days i will have it at my home. I ordered the 8535PU which is the same of the PI but with the regulation of ORHs and something GREEN (enviromental love) stuff. The rest of the models are for SMC, so be carefull when you order that.

The blue capacitors near the DB9 are the 1n2f (in my case 1n5f)... i will see if they eat all the noise from my com cable.

Hi Knob2001, I am new to this forum and I am earger to by this joy rider w/ 2DOF...... I've order the circuit broad from expresspcb.com and I am just wondering if you can point me to the right direction of which exact resistors and capacitors and other components am I suppose to get... I hope u can point me to the right direction. thanks

[knob2001]

Hi!...

madpcsupreme, i strongly recommend you to read the TronicGr topic about the AMC motion controller. I know there are more than 67 (right now) pages, but all the magic about the controller is inside the topic.

On the first page there is a part list with all the stuff you will need to build it:
tronic-s-amc-motor-motion-controller-with-pwm-servo-output-t559.html

Once you check the list, probably you will not find very easy one or two components... again, reading the whole topic will give you all the answers, as i only have the answers to my case.

Anyway, the first and only good advice i can give anyone about the hardware of the joyrider -> TronicGr original topic... the rest is kind of chaotic troubleshooting for later on once you have something real on your hands.

Welcome to the forum, madpcsupreme, and prepare yourself to this huge DIY... whatever you need, feel free to ask
Regards
Knob2001

[knob2001]

Hi!...

After this mini holydays, back on work and some upgrades on the joyrider

On the hardware side, i think it's a good idea to have the AMC and the DSMhb on an enclosure becose there's a lot of amps running here and there. Following the DIY spirit of the whole project, i made my own aluminium box. The material is just 2mm thick, easy enough to work with a light driller.
After searching for some different types of connectors, i've choosen those you can see on the picture:

The connectors for the battery and for the motors are female powercons from neutrix. I was looking for small and secure connectors... so i added another two XLR (audio pro) 3 pins connectors for the Hall sensors. I added 2 -15 max- fuse (one for each motor), and the female connector for the mains power. As i have a little child jumping over whatever he sees, i added a key to the power as TronicGr did on his enclosure.

On the front of the box, i just put the serial adaptor (usb very soon), and the 5 leds (4 of the DSMhb and the green from the AMC).

The inside could be a little anarchy but i think there is enough room for everything. I have to install the fan over the DSMhb and i'm thinking to leave the LCD screen inside, as it only works as a monitor for the axis data and it will be disabled while the motors are running.

As i talked on the last post, TronicGr told me the best resolution you will get from the Hall sensors is rolling it on the same Z axis of the magnet, instead of moving the sensor along the x or y, i mean, just rotate the magnet or the sensor without vertical or horizontal displacement between them.

This is what i think is the best way to accomplish it:

Notice the magnet doesn't touch the sensor, just move it a milimeter to have the best data. Again, i did it using those fantastic Ikea metal furniture stuff i found on a box.

Things to to on coming days:
XLR male on both sensors
Powercon male on the other side of the motors
Cut the aluminium box on the top to allow the DSMhb fan breath
My dad gave me an empty car battery so i have to recharge it
Press the 'On' button and let the joyrider fligh across the universe.

So... on the next days, i will check out those TODOs one by one with some more pictures to show you how i'm doing it.

Regards
Knob2001

[Thend]

Really nice updates!

Inspiring Idea about the aluminum box whuld be cool to do a box and have a USB hub in it too! so you can connect the AMC board and your joystick/steeringwheel in to the box as well and then only connect ONE! USB cable to the computer

Regards
Oliver

[knob2001]

...then only connect ONE! USB cable to the computer

Good idea! The less stuff hanging around, the better... i will add that to my TODO list.

Regards
Knob2001

[Raceray]

Hi,

so much effort for a nice aluminium box and than you only write by hand with a textmarker on it
Surely it looks much more cool, when you use labeling stickers or a spray can. (Laserprinted looks the best, anyone know how to make that with cheap things?)

Keep up the good work!